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Community Health Workers vital to care teams

A marathon, not a sprint

Our five-year campaign to evaluate impact and ensure sustainability of CHWs in Kansas

This post originally appeared in Grantmakers in Health on Aug. 19, 2024.

David Jordan, President and CEO, United Methodist Health Ministry Fund
Katie Schoenhoff, Vice President of Programs, United Methodist Health Ministry Fund
McClain Bryant Macklin, Vice President, Policy and Impact, Health Forward Foundation
Nathan Madden, Policy Impact Strategist, Health Forward Foundation

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Community Health Workers (CHWs), also referred to as health navigators, advocates, or promotor(a)s, are trusted community members trained to work with local health care and social services to help clients navigate often complex systems of care, while also improving the quality and cultural competence of service delivery.

The United Methodist Health Ministry Fund (Health Fund) and Health Forward Foundation have long supported CHWs in Kansas and Missouri, providing grants to organizations to support CHWs in a variety of settings – clinical and community-based – as well as supporting coalition-building, training, research and advocacy efforts.

As helpful as our work has been in piloting and demonstrating the value of CHWs, short-term funding mechanisms like grants do not ensure the long-term viability of CHWs. Both organizations have long advocated that Medicaid needs to reimburse employers for CHW services to help ensure a stable workforce. In addition, to achieve the status necessary for reimbursement, CHWs need to be certified.

In the summer of 2019, our two foundations began working with the Kansas Department of Health and Environment (KDHE) and the Kansas Community Health Worker Coalition (KSCHWC) to achieve our two goals: certification and reimbursement.

Using multiple strategies—research and evaluation, convening, administrative and legislative advocacy, and communications—we made steady progress toward achieving our long-term vision to cement CHWs in the healthcare system in Kansas.

Today, five years after our original meeting, we celebrate the Kansas Medicaid office’s recent decision to more than double reimbursement rates for our CHWs, who the state now recognizes as professionals. Still, there’s more work to be done, focusing on implementation.  

Research

During our initial 2019 meeting, KDHE leadership concluded that while they saw substantial evidence CHWs were becoming integral to the health care system, they needed to better understand the state’s CHW landscape before instituting policy changes.

Following that meeting, the Health Fund contracted with Wichita State University, which houses the KSCHWC, to conduct focus groups with CHWs and their employers to elucidate the current system’s strengths and weaknesses. The research also included a literature review and comprehensive mapping of the state’s existing CHWs.

The Wichita State team found that integrating CHWs into care teams results in better access to care, improved health outcomes, and reduced health care inequities. The research team also found that CHWs helped health organizations achieve savings and efficiencies, thus providing a healthy return on investment.

Convening A CHW Work Group to Advance Certification and Payment Policy

Armed with that research demonstrating the value of CHWs, our two foundations asked KDHE to form a workgroup to develop recommendations on CHW certification and payment, specifically Medicaid reimbursement.

KDHE agreed and together we began the first critical step – developing a diverse workgroup of stakeholders. Ultimately, we found broad support and interest in the group, which included state agency partners, the KSCHWC, the two foundations, the state’s hospital association, the state’s primary care association, managed care organizations, health educators, hospitals, clinics, doctors, community-based organizations, and others who employ and supervise CHWs.

The group, facilitated by the Health Fund and KDHE, and supported by health policy consultants Erika Saleski and Donna Cohen Ross, launched in the fall of 2020 and met monthly through the summer of 2021.

In the fall of 2021, the workgroup announced the following recommendations: 

  • KDHE should support a CHW certification process maintained by a non-governmental agency.
  • The KSCHWC should be designated as the certification organization.
  • KDHE should take the necessary steps in the short term to authorize Medicaid payment for CHWs and develop financing strategies that incentivize the Medicaid managed care providers to support CHWs.

Demonstration Projects, Training and Federal Grants

Simultaneous to our convening of the policy group, we recognized the need to demonstrate how CHWs were already improving care across the state. The Health Fund supported five pilot projects, housed in rural hospitals, Federally Qualified Health Centers (FQHCs), and health departments in both urban and rural communities. We worked with a safety-net clinic with deep expertise in CHW programs, long supported by Health Forward, to provide technical assistance to the sites. We also used a shared data system and developed a robust evaluation protocol to capture both the importance of CHWs to improving patient experiences and the return on investment they delivered. Health Forward continued funding existing CHW programs, adding to research from their successful pilots which showed that including CHWs on health care teams reduced health disparities, improved health outcomes and reduced emergency department visits.

Between our foundation-supported demonstrations and two large, federally-supported CHW programs, we added nearly one hundred CHWs statewide, increasing the profession’s ranks by 20 percent. With these grants ending by 2024, there was increasing urgency to develop an adequate CHW funding strategy.

Certification and Recognition of the Profession  

In the spring of 2022, KDHE established the CHW certification process, while also creating a CHW section within its Bureau of Family Health, recognizing an increasing momentum for the profession.

news release from KDHE said the certification recognizes the valuable role of CHW as a link between health and social services and communities. It noted CHWs facilitate access to services and improve the quality and cultural competency of service delivery.

As recommended by the workgroup, the certification process would be managed by the KSCHWC.

Ongoing Payment Policy Advocacy

While CHW certification was a big win, we faced a setback in the summer of 2022 when new leadership at KDHE raised issues we thought were long settled—specifically, were CHWs a sound investment, and was Medicaid reimbursement needed?   

We pressed our case with data from previous and ongoing pilots and a 2020 Penn Medicine study that found each dollar invested in CHWs yielded a $2.47 return on investment.  

Satisfied by data provided, Medicaid leadership agreed to pursue a state plan amendment (SPA), the first step in securing reimbursements. Initially elated, we soon learned they were modeling it on Indiana’s SPA, which had lower reimbursement rates than we sought and problematic eligibility restrictions.

We proposed several ways to improve the SPA, grounded in our Kansas experience as well as that of other states, such as Rhode Island. Medicaid was willing to include some of our changes, but the reimbursement rates they proposed were far too low, and their language excluded rural health clinics (RHCs), FQHCs, and Indian Health Clinics (IHCs) from any reimbursement. The exclusion was highly problematic because many of our most vulnerable Kansans rely on these providers for services.

Despite our best efforts, including detailed comment letters signed by over 20 organizationsthe SPA, went into effect on July 1, 2023.

Improving a Flawed Policy

Disappointed but unbowed, we redoubled our efforts to improve the flawed policy. Just weeks after Medicaid’s decision, we met with a newly appointed Kansas Medicaid director, who agreed to immediately clarify that FQHCs, RHCs, and IHCs were indeed eligible for reimbursement.

Even more important, the agency agreed to conduct a rate review, opening the door for renewed advocacy for the higher reimbursements. The foundations supported the agency’s review process, providing Medicaid with critical information for its analysis.

In the spring of 2024, Kansas Medicaid made its decision: the reimbursement rate for CHWs was increased by more than 100 percent, ensuring that Kansas would finally have a robust CHW reimbursement policy.

The increase was implemented in June, and in July, the foundations organized a sign-on letter of 30+ organizations thanking KDHE and Medicaid for their leadership and commitment to CHWs.

Also, the state’s new managed care contracts integrate CHWs into the state’s privatized Medicaid program, as originally recommended.

In the five years since our original meeting, Kansas has gone from an under-resourced network of CHWs to a recognized, growing and recognized profession that will receive Medicaid reimbursement, and thanks to federal advocacy, Medicare reimbursement.

What lessons do we draw? These processes can be long and arduous, and perseverance is critical. When we achieved less progress than we sought, we embraced the half-loaf and redoubled our efforts to secure the rest. When we ran into bureaucratic roadblocks, we were mindful that such barriers are not uncommon—nor insurmountable. It’s often a marathon, not a sprint.

Final Thoughts

Today, we continue to work with the state and Medicaid to implement the payment policy, help organizations integrate CHWs into their operations, develop employer reimbursement strategies, and pursue communications strategies to recruit CHWs and make providers and patients aware of how to engage them and leverage their value. The work is far from done, but we are grateful for the support we’ve received and proud of the progress we’ve made.


Pioneers in Health episode 5 – Lindsay Ford, The Voter Network

As we celebrate Civic Health Month, we are excited to welcome Lindsay Ford, Executive Director of the Voter Network, to the Health Fund’s Pioneers in Health podcast.

In episode five, we explore the importance of voting to a healthy democracy and building healthy communities. At the nonpartisan Voter Network, Lindsay and her team provide effective tools and resources to increase voter participation and make voting easy. 

At the Health Fund, increasing voter engagement and the work of the Voter Network is important because increased voter participation is associated with better health outcomes, reduced unemployment and lower recidivism rates. We also know that people who vote are more likely to volunteer, stay informed, interact with their neighbors, and contact their elected officials.

Lindsay also shares that relational organizing, work supported by the Voter Network’s Voter to Voter Program, is the most effective way to increase voter participation. Voter to Voter helps Kansans talk to their friends and family about voting. This trusted voter to voter outreach is one of the best ways to make a big impact on voting participation.

We hope you’ll enjoy this great conversation with Lindsay Ford and use the Voter Network’s tools – including ballot guides – to help encourage your friends and family to vote.

Episode 5 features Lindsay Ford, Executive Director of The Voter Network


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HC Webinar: Coffee Time with Dashinika

Healthy Congregations team members are invited to join us online August 28 from noon to 1 p.m.

Dashinika Poindexter will now be serving as the main point of contact for questions or concerns related to the Healthy Congregations (HC) program, and we wanted to reintroduce her to you as she serves in her new role as Congregational and Grants Management Officer at United Methodist Health Ministry Fund.
 
To better get to know teams and the projects HC teams are working on, Dashinika will lead an informal conversation where HC team members or lay leaders will have the opportunity to meet Dashinika, introduce themselves, and share their programs with Dashinika and other HC teams. Participants are welcome to join for the whole hour or stop in for a few minutes as time permits.
 
If you are new to the HC program, this is a wonderful way to meet Dashinika and connect with other HC teams. If you are unable to attend but still want to meet with Dashinika, please email her at dashinika@healthfund.org to schedule a separate time to connect.

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Pioneers in Health episode 4 – April Holman, Alliance for a Healthy Kansas

April Holman, Executive Director of the Alliance for a Healthy Kansas, is the latest health leader to join the Health Fund’s Pioneers in Health podcast. 

In episode 4, we cover a lot of ground including April’s background as well as the Alliance’s important work to improve access to health care throughout our state.

A central part of our discussion is how important expanding Medicaid is to improving health, protecting hospitals and stimulating our economy.

We also touch on how important policy change and advocacy is to improving health. 

We invite you to join the conversation, share the podcast, and visit www.expandkancare.com to learn more about how you can support efforts to expand Medicaid in Kansas.

Episode 4 features April Holman, Executive Director of the Alliance for a Healthy Kansas


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Pioneers in Health episode 3 – John Wilson, Kansas Action for Children

John Wilson, CEO of Kansas Action for Children, is the latest health leader to join the Health Fund’s Pioneers in Health podcast. 

In episode 3, we cover a lot of ground including John’s background as well as Kansas Action for Children’s important work to improve access to child care and advocacy for sustainable tax policy.

A central part of our discussion is how policy decisions impact health. 

To improve the health of Kansans, we need to support policies that ensure children and families have the healthiest start to life – access to health care and programs that foster healthy development, economic security, and access to high quality learning. We also need to ensure that our fiscal policies – drawing down federal funds and tax policies – are sustainable so that we can maintain access to crucial services.

Episode 3 features John Wilson, President and CEO of Kansas Action for Children


We hope you’ll enjoy John’s episode and we encourage you to subscribe to Pioneers in Health to receive new episodes as they’re released.

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Thanking Kansas for supporting CHW access and sustainability

More than thirty organizations joined the Health Fund in thanking Kansas Department of Health and Environment (KDHE) Secretary Janet Stanek for a recent policy change that increased reimbursement rates for Community Health Workers (CHWs). The increased reimbursement rates will make it more financially viable for clinics, hospitals and community organizations to continue employing CHWs.

CHWs are community members trained to work with the local health care and social services systems to bridge the gap between these systems and their clients. CHWs are also referred to as: health navigator, promotor(a), advocate, and educator. Utilizing CHWs leads to improvements in health outcomes, increased access to appropriate services and care, and a financial return on investment.

KDHE officially recognized the CHW profession in 2022 when the state launched the certification process for CHWs. In 2023, the state Medicaid Office began reimbursing for services provided by CHWs. However, partners raised concerns about the rates, which is why the decision by KDHE and the Medicaid Office to increase reimbursement rates is critically important to sustaining CHWs in Kansas.

In addition to thanking Secretary Stanek as well as the KDHE and Medicaid teams, the partners also committed to working with the agencies on the implementation of the policy as well as on any emerging issues to ensure CHWs remain a part of care delivery teams in Kansas.

You can view the thank you letter here.

Community Paramedicine Research Brief Released

The Kansas Health Institute, in partnership with the Health Fund, recently released the second in a series of research briefs focused on the health care workforce in Kansas. The Community Paramedicine brief explores key policies and practices that influence, support or constrain community paramedicine programs. The first in the series, available here, examined health workforce challenges and opportunities in our state.

Community paramedicine programs represent an emerging model of health care, using the skills, experience and knowledge of emergency medical services professionals — most often paramedics and emergency medical technicians (EMTs) — to deliver a wide variety of non-emergency services in the home. These programs can expand access to care, improve patient outcomes, increase health care system efficiency, and have shown promising effectiveness in both urban and rural settings.

As the health care system continues to demand more skilled workers and an increased capacity of care with fewer resources and supports, the time for innovation and new solutions is now. Community paramedicine shows great potential to help address these challenges, especially in conjunction with other models to expand and strengthen health care teams – including community health workers, peer support specialists, home health aides, nursing assistants, and medical assistants.

Emerging evidence, including from pilot programs in several states, is demonstrating the effectiveness of community paramedicine and highlighting its potential to deliver both improved health outcomes and cost savings. Coordinated with existing health care services, community paramedicine has demonstrated reductions in emergency department visits, readmissions, and costs, while improving patient health outcomes and patient satisfaction.

The research brief was informed in part by a January 30th Kansas Health Institute and Health Fund event, Advancing Community Paramedicine in Kansas, featuring discussion on policy considerations and opportunities related to community paramedics and how they can help meet Kansas’ needs for a stronger and nimbler health care workforce. You can access the event recording and related materials here.

In mid-February, Kansas Health Institute and the Health Fund partnered on a second meeting focused on key policy considerations for leveraging an expanded set of health care professionals to strengthen care teams and address challenges and gaps (including payment issues).

Community Paramedicine Research Brief Highlights

  • Community paramedicine programs can expand access to care, improve patient outcomes and increase health care system efficiency and have shown promising effectiveness in both urban and rural settings.
  • Community paramedicine utilizes trained emergency medical technicians (EMTs) and paramedics to provide health care services in a variety of non-emergency situations outside of a clinical setting.
  • Laws and policies guiding community paramedicine programs build upon existing emergency medical services (EMS) laws and vary from state to state.
  • In Kansas, community paramedicine is not explicitly defined or recognized in state policy and current services are provided under the existing EMT and paramedic scopes of practice.
  • While most states, including Kansas, do not have reimbursement for community paramedicine services, a growing number are exploring reimbursement and recognition for community paramedicine.

Together, the KHI briefs explore how leveraging the skills and knowledge of health care professionals beyond physicians and nurses can help strengthen health care teams to better address the needs of Kansans.

At the Health Fund, we see great potential for community paramedicine to improve health care access, equity, and outcomes for all Kansans, particularly those in underserved and rural areas of our state.

Read the full Community Paramedicine Brief to learn more.

Lisse Regehr receives Kim Moore Award for Visionary Leadership

HUTCHINSON, Kan.— United Methodist Health Ministry Fund presented Lisse Regehr with the 2023 Kim Moore Award for Visionary Leadership at an April 19 celebration in Salina. Regehr is President and CEO of Thrive Allen County, Iola, which works to improve quality of life in Allen County by focusing on health, wellness, recreation and education conditions, and by engaging people and institutions around a common vision for the future.

Regehr’s vision and guidance has enabled Thrive’s success in increasing access to healthcare, connecting people to programs and services, encouraging residents to live healthier, more active lives, and providing leadership on important public issues.

Learn more about Lisse and Thrive’s work in the inaugural episode of our Pioneers in Health podcast:


Regehr, a native of Iola, oversaw Thrive’s Navigator Program from 2014 to 2017, reducing the county’s uninsured rate from 21% in 2013 to 9% in 2017—one of the biggest improvements in Kansas. The program has spread across the state and now helps enroll thousands of individuals in insurance and safety-net programs.

Shortly after becoming President and CEO in 2019, Lisse and Thrive helped Allen County navigate challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic, including stepping up to the plate to administer the county’s SPARK funding, bringing in additional grant funding, creating programs to assist local businesses and nonprofits, and defending local health department efforts to ensure the public had access to accurate information on the pandemic and how to stay safe.

Regehr has been active in supporting Allen County’s prosperity and growth. She helped the community transform the loss of a local employer into a significant new opportunity, and was instrumental in working with the state to open a new state park in Iola in 2023, creating further economic development opportunities.

Regehr also oversees Thrive’s efforts to build a statewide rural health advocacy network, called Thrive Kansas, which works on regional substance misuse initiatives; assists Kansas with enrolling for Medicaid, Medicare, and Marketplace insurance; and increases awareness around statewide child care issues.

Jessica Thompson, Deputy Director of Thrive Allen County, notes Regehr’s innovation and commitment to sharing for the good of all Kansans. “Lisse firmly believes a rising tide lifts all boats, and she is not afraid to share resources, ideas, and initiatives with other rural communities across Kansas. She is innovative and is constantly looking for ways to improve not only her community but communities across Kansas,” Thompson said.

With 98 of Kansas’ 105 counties considered rural, Lisse recognizes that what is good for Allen County is likely good for others, and has demonstrated a strong ability to scale Thrive’s local successes into successes for the entire state – such as creating a statewide bike-share-in-a-box program modeled after Thrive’s successful bike share program. She also regularly coordinates engagement with state and local policymakers on issues including child care, rural community development, and health care coverage.

The Health Fund is honored to recognize Lisse’s vision and work with this award, and is proud to continue its successful partnership with Thrive in working to ensure healthy rural individuals and communities along with brighter futures for our youngest Kansans.

Established in 2017 to honor the Fund’s founding president, the Kim Moore Visionary Leadership Award is presented each year to a Kansan exemplifying visionary leadership in one of the Fund’s strategic focus areas. For 2023, the chosen focus area is access to care. The individual receives a cash award of $500, and if associated with an organization, that agency receives an additional $2,000 to use as it deems.

Pioneers in Health Podcast launches

We’re excited to introduce the Health Fund’s new podcast, Pioneers in Health. With each episode we’ll share the inspiring stories of pioneering leaders working to improve health. We’ll bring you guests from our state, from our nation and from your backyard to tell their stories of how they broke new ground and changed the landscape of health care.

The inaugural episode features Lisse Regehr, President and CEO of Thrive Allen County and recipient of the 2023 Kim Moore Award for Visionary Leadership


You can look forward to hearing from community and state leaders, policy makers, advocates, and researchers working on innovative efforts to improve health. Every podcast you’ll hear from David Jordan, the president and CEO of the Health Fund, who brings perspective and a rich background with building community and leading advocacy in health care. He will lead you through thought-provoking interviews and inspiring conversations with our guests. 

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The Health Fund is a statewide health philanthropy dedicated to improving the health and wholeness of all Kansans—especially those in rural and under-served communities. Leveraging our strengths by convening, partnering, providing hands-on expertise, strengthening policies and systems, and focusing on sustainability, we work to advance innovative solutions to improve Kansans’ health for generations to come. To maximize our impact, we focus on three strategic areas: Access to Care, Thriving Children, and Engaged Congregations and Communities

We view health as more than health care. Health depends on things beyond your control – including the conditions in your community, the schools in your neighborhood, the availability of healthy food and good jobs, and whether you have health providers and hospitals close to you. These are factors that we can change together, and as part of this podcast we’ll be bringing you stories of pioneers who have led important changes to improve health.

Through this podcast, we aim to bring you news and educate you, our listeners, on ways that you can promote better health in your lives and in your communities. Our hope is that the voices and perspectives that you find here will encourage you to take bold action. 

If you ever have questions for us, we invite you to get in touch.

With early childhood office, lawmakers can launch better lives for littlest Kansans

This opinion piece by opinion editor, Clay Wirestone of the Kansas Reflector captures a conversation with Health Fund President David Jordan and Former state representative and child care professional Monica Murnan. This piece originally appeared in the Kansas Reflector on March 18, 2024.


The first five years of a child’s life are vital for growth and development. Yet services for the youngest Kansans are split among four different state agencies. A task force last year recommended consolidating those services under a single office, and there’s a piece of legislation to do just that.

Former state representative and child care professional Monica Murnan and United Methodist Health Ministry Fund president David Jordan joined me on Friday to talk about the legislation — House Bill 2785 — and the state of early childhood services throughout Kansas.

“The conversations that are happening now in Kansas are extremely exciting to me,” Murnan said. “As we have not just the standard early childhood communities talking about this, but now we have banded with business, with economic development forces, with all the folks who recognize the connection to health and behavioral health care, to have this really important conversation about the consolidation and organization of how the state offers that infrastructure.”

This subject resonates deeply with me.

Not only am I the parent of a child, one who has experienced preschool, K-5 and now middle school, but I also spent four years working in the field of child advocacy. I worked four years at Kansas Action for Children as communications director, in what ended up being an interregnum in my journalism career. However, meeting and working with folks including Murnan and Jordan taught me so much.

It also showed how far we have to go in making sure that kids younger than 5 have great places to learn and grow.

“A kid in Garnett does not get what a kid in Gardner gets, which a kid in Garden City gets,” Murnan said. “It’s highly dependent. And the second thing that we know, through needs assessments, it also is highly dependent upon the adult in the kid’s life ability to navigate multiple systems.”

To be specific, early childhood services in Kansas right now are divided into separate fiefdoms. The Kansas State Department of Education oversees the Parents as Teachers program. The Kansas Children’s Cabinet and Trust Fund runs grants, along with a handful of other programs. The Department for Health and Environment includes both maternal health and child care licensing operations. Finally, the Department for Children and Families handles child care subsidies, home visits and Head Start collaborations.

Whew. Discussions about bringing these programs together under one umbrella have gone on for awhile, but last year a task force convened by Gov. Laura Kelly issued official recommendations. Members agreed that Kansas could use a centralized early childhood hub.

Such an office wouldn’t just integrate previously disparate programs. Its leader could help the whole state chart a path forward.

“While they all collaborate very well, and there’s a lot of energy and excitement around building a shared vision on how we can make Kansas the best state to raise a family, there’s challenges that exist with interacting with the system,” Jordan told me. “And one major challenge also is the the lack of a clear leader who has authority for driving an agenda, building and driving the agenda forward, and working in concert with any executive in governor’s office to do so.”

Roughly 150 Kansas early childhood leaders showed up at the Statehouse on March 6 for an advocacy day and bill hearing.

Unfortunately, that hearing was rescheduled for the next day, with testimony spilling over into the following Monday, March 11. Best-laid plans and all that. Both Murnan and Jordan sounded positive about the hearings and the potential for having the proposal come to fruition this session.

After several weeks where the best news to come out of the Statehouse was the occasional rumor of a tasty bag of Cheez-Its from the basement vending machines, that’s enough to lift my spirits.

Not everything happening in Topeka has to be dire. Just most things, perhaps.

A task force appointed created by executive order by Democratic Gov. Laura Kelly outlined a strategy for consolidating 50 early childhood programs housed in four state agencies within a single, unified Cabinet agency.
 A task force appointed created by executive order by Democratic Gov. Laura Kelly outlined a strategy for consolidating 50 early childhood programs housed in four state agencies within a single, unified Cabinet agency. (Tim Carpenter/Kansas Reflector)

“The other thing that I really picked up when I was sitting in the room is these are not the usual suspects that are talking,” Murnan said. “You know, you’re always going to see Monica Murnan in the room, right? You’re always going to be see Kansas Action for Children. But other folks are talking and saying we must do something now. And I think that is really important to anybody who is in an elected position to take notice of.”

Jordan added: “The other piece that I would just echo is that there was over 700 child care providers, economic development professionals, families that signed on to the letter in support of the office of early childhood. To see that multi-sector support in the early childhood space really speaks to the level of interest in this topic and in this particular policy proposal.”

Widespread interest can lead different opinions, of course.

Debate over the Senate’s budget bill Wednesday saw extensive discussion about a child care amendment. Discussion between legislators included calls for changing child-to-provider ratios and loosening licensure requirements. In other words, they recycle tired tropes about government being the problem, even when it comes to keeping little kids safe. I asked my podcast guests what they thought about such proposals.

“I really look back and say if that had been the solution, we would have done it a long time ago,” Murnan told me. “And it is something that I believe in firmly that the regulations that we have in Kansas, ones that I worked under for years and years, are intended to protect kids. And I think we have to be very careful when we look at anything that removes protections. I am all for streamlining regulations. I’m all for anything that we stop and look at in a concerted way.

“But but to think there is any one solution to child care issues is not something that I have ever been able to find.”

No one believes that creating an office of early childhood will magically create abundant and affordable high-quality child care. But it would allow parents, providers, legislators and the public a starting point to grappling with one of the biggest challenges for families and economic development. Fixing the problem will take time, money and dedication from sectors across the state. Murnan compared the necessary changes to the transformation in higher educated created by the G.I. Bill.

So buckle up, folks. We have a long way to go, and a bumpy road ahead.

Clay Wirestone is Kansas Reflector opinion editor. Through its opinion section, Kansas Reflector works to amplify the voices of people who are affected by public policies or excluded from public debate. Find information, including how to submit your own commentary, here.

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